Pantheism and the Vatican

“The Vatican gave Pantheism further prominence in a Papal encyclical of 2009 and a New Year’s Day statement on January 1, 2010, criticizing Naturalistic Pantheism for denying the superiority of humans over nature and “seeing the source of man’s salvation in nature”.

Einstein wrote, “We followers of Spinoza see our God in the wonderful order and lawfulness of all that exists and in its soul (“Beseeltheit”) as it reveals itself in man and animal.”

From Wikipedia – Pantheism

I think it’s weird that the Catholic Church with all of it’s power bothers to criticize Pantheism. Pantheists certainly don’t care what “the Vatican” thinks about what they think – except to be amused. If “the Vatican” did agree with Pantheists – he would not be able to say because it would undo their power. So he has to just keep being ridiculous no matter how little sense his ideas make.

It’s absurd to say that humans are superior over nature. We need nature / we are nature – just like the rest of nature. And there is nothing the matter with nature, anyway – for us to be so much “better” than. What a denial of reality. We are made up of the elements of nature. We are born and die just like other mammals. Sheesh.

“Seeing the source of man’s salvation in nature.”

Seeing as how dependent on nature we are (being a part of nature and all) – nature is all that can ‘save’ us.

The church – esp. the original sin nonsense would have us believe that animals (us) should live outside of nature – that we need to be saved from being animals – being mortal – being alive. Also absurd.

Interesting developments -> The Vatican & American Nuns

The Vatican has issued a decree rebuking American nuns and trying to enforce more control over them. 

It’s good to hear about the radical, feminist nuns.

From an article in the Chicago Sun Times titled, Vatican waging a war on nuns (by Carol Marin)

… if you thought things could not get more surreal or insulting for the women of the Catholic Church, you may have underestimated the lengths the Curia will go to alienate American Catholics from a faith they love and from a hierarchy that has compromised much of its moral authority.

In a scathing rebuke, the Vati­can ordered the overhaul of the Leadership Conference of Women Religious, an organization that represents most of the 57,000 sisters in the United States.

What sins have these women committed? According to the Vatican, these nuns have been too focused on issues of poverty, war, health care and homosexuality. And not fixated enough on what the bishops think is most important — women’s wombs.

These nuns — “radical feminists,” says the Vatican — have failed to understand that the bishops are their “authentic teachers.”

At mass this week, one of the readings was from Acts 5:29. The apostles Peter and John were ordered by the temple’s high priest not to teach. And their response was, “We must obey God rather than any human authority.”

The nuns of this church are doing God’s work. They deserve gratitude and respect.

Not the Vatican’s unpardonable scorn.

Abigail Pesta interviewed a former nun for her take on all this, 

Former Nun Mary Johnson Criticizes Vatican Crackdown on U.S. Sisters

“The main complaint is that sisters are thinking for themselves,” she says. “No one says it in those words, but that’s the bottom line: you’re thinking for yourself, and we don’t like that.” She adds, “It’s an election year and bishops are becoming more political. When sisters don’t agree, they sometimes raise their voices. The Catholic Church has long recognized that an individual’s first duty is to obey his or her conscience, but the bishops say that any conscience that conflicts with their teaching is a conscience in error. Any questioning is seen as disloyal, even heretical—bishops aren’t used to being questioned. It’s easy for bishops to get an overblown sense of their own importance.”